Ok, so his nibs and I signed up for this class on boundaries. With our son living at home and not working at the moment, it sounded like a helpful concept. It’s difficult for us (me especially) to hold on to the fact that he’s not 12 anymore (though you couldn’t tell that by his room!), but we NEED to remember that and set some adult-type boundaries (which we have no clue how to do). It’s a big class, 15 people besides the facilitator. It requires breaking up into small groups of three for some discussions. His nibs HATES that. I’m a talker, doesn’t bother me at all!
We went to the first class last Wednesday night and it was a little weird. It’s was a hard subject for me to get my mind around. But where the trouble really started was when got the participant’s guide out to do the homework. The first set of questions totally befuddled me.
1. Think of a time when you stuck by your boundaries and people respected you for it. What were the circumstances? Why were you able to maintain your boundary?
Imagine a blank but puzzled look emoji here… In trying to come up with an answer for those questions, I realized I wouldn’t recognize a boundary in my life if I tripped over it! I have pondered those questions for a whole week now and have done NONE of the homework. Tomorrow is session 2. I did, however, come to a startling reality: I don’t think I HAVE any personal boundaries.
I think when his nibs and I tied the knot 48 years ago the culture was that married couples became a team. They shared household responsibilities, finances, babysitting, etc. And that’s the way it’s always been for us. The problem is, being the lazy lout that I am, I think I let his nibs do all the boundary setting. So now when I look back I sure can see where I needed some of my own in the worst way — at home, at work, at church… (We’ve never really been fighters, but I suspect having my own boundaries may have changed THAT equation.)
What I realized was that I could see them in HIS life, but not mine. One example stands out to me. When he was working as the CFO for a previous employer he’d been with for nearly 25 years, the employer asked him to do something that bordered on the edge of being illegal financially. His nibs said “no”, and within a few weeks he was let go. They stressed at the first session that no matter what the circumstances you always have a choice. His nibs took umbrage at that because he knew that had it been something NOT illegal or (at the very least unethical) he probably would have done what his boss wanted. After all, he had a family to support and needed that job. In all likelihood he wouldn’t have said no because he would have felt he had no choice. He needed the job. But knowing he would be breaking the law was a whole different matter.
So tomorrow is the class and we’re trying to decide whether this will be helpful for us or not. Or if they might even “break” something that can’t be fixed! We both feel this may not be helpful to us with Brandon. I am disappointed. But I guess talking one-on-one with a counselor might be a better solution anyway.
Have any of you ever read “Boundaries” by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend? If so, what was your impression of it? Or even did you feel like it helped?
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Personal boundaries are guidelines, rules or limits that a person creates to identify reasonable, safe and permissible ways for other people to behave towards them and how they will respond when someone passes those limits. It’s where I stop and someone else begins… (Wikipedia)
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Picture Sources:
Castle — Setting Healthy Boundaries
Book — Boundries
Old Saying — Healthy Place
The art of being a good teacher!
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Did they make you take a class in boundaries when you went to college, Opher?
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Yes I read Henry Cloud’s book and found it helpful. It’s one of those books that are worth dipping into now and again. Oh you have a boomerang child too! Me too!
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LOL I’m going to go out on a limb and say that means an adult kid who has moved back in? It’s so bloomin’ hard to not treat them like they’re 16 anymore! How have you been, Denzil? It’s really good to see you!
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You’ve really got me thinking. I’ve always been pretty good at setting boundaries between work and home’ but on a personal front? You’d have to ask the people I’ve lived with over the years. I do remember it was tricky when my adult sons moved back home temporarily (one at a time), but I think it might have been me that had the problem with boundaries. Like you say: they’re always your children, not matter how old they are and the instinct to go and tidy their bedrooms is a hard one to overcome.
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😉 Yes! That is SO hard. But I manage it VERY well. It’s his nibs that is being driven crazy by it! 🙂 I just keep the door closed!
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Your post has motivated me to explore the issues around boundaries. thanks.
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Hey Margo! Well, be sure to take a bottle of water and some snacks on your exploration. It’s a doozy! 😉
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Have you read “A Room of One’s Own” by Virginia Woolf? I think i’ve said before that it is important to have a place that is yours where no one can interrupt you.. and some hours set aside. This might not solve all of the problems, but would solve some.. Best of luck. xo
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You know, I have the book and have started it several times. That’s the one where she originally gave that info as a talk to a group of women? Right, Judy? I never did finish it. I’ve also been trying to get through “Mrs. Dalloway” for literally years! That stream-of-consciousness stuff is a killer for me to read! Interestingly, we just went to see the WWI movie “1917” and it was shot with one camera, one continuous long shot. The camera never breaks away for different scenes. It felt almost like watching a stream-of-thought thingy. Interesting experience.
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Well, just the thought that every woman needs a room of her own is enough to take from the book, Calen.
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After having Brandon off on medical leave for nearly a year, I’d settle for my own bathroom!!! (rolls eyes…)
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It is tough living with adult children. Especially if one is married to one.
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I was joking with that last sentence. I was in the midst of erasing it when it published. Sorry. Joke, joke. 😀
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LOL! I laughed right out loud when I read that, Oneta! I have one of those types, too! ❤
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You have to wonder how often being ask to do something not up to snuff is going on out there. My late husband,years ago, was ask to falsely claim warrenty papers and he said no. Of course he had to find another job which was troubling for us but the ‘boss’ just got away with his trick. But….when you look at the things going on in our government …well…it must be pretty regular. But …God knows.
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I totally get that, Beverly. Not long after we got married his nibs was asked to do something that bordered on being illegal and he told his boss no. Three months later his boss told him they thought they needed a CPA to do the job Arn was doing, and they let him go. Payback… Funny thing was, a year later while Arn was still looking for work, his boss called him and said the CPA was having trouble doing the job, would he consider coming back. So they hired him back — at half the salary he was making before! Talk about crooks!
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